{"id":5324,"date":"2025-05-11T17:59:19","date_gmt":"2025-05-11T14:59:19","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/klasikdusunceokulu.com\/?page_id=5324"},"modified":"2025-05-11T17:59:19","modified_gmt":"2025-05-11T14:59:19","slug":"erman-goren-homeros-okumalariilias-5-seminer-ozeti","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/klasikdusunceokulu.com\/index.php\/erman-goren-homeros-okumalariilias-5-seminer-ozeti\/","title":{"rendered":"ERMAN G\u00d6REN, HOMEROS OKUMALARI:IL\u0130AS 5. SEM\u0130NER \u00d6ZET\u0130"},"content":{"rendered":"

ERMAN G\u00d6REN, HOMEROS OKUMALARI:IL\u0130AS 5. SEM\u0130NER \u00d6ZET\u0130<\/strong><\/p>\n

Dersin Amac\u0131 ve \u0130\u00e7eri\u011fi<\/strong><\/p>\n

Bu seminer, Ilias metni \u00fczerinden \u201cinsan nedir?\u201d sorusunu temel alarak Homeros\u2019ta ki\u015filik, irade ve bilin\u00e7 kavramlar\u0131n\u0131 felsefi, edebi ve filolojik a\u00e7\u0131lardan tart\u0131\u015f\u0131r. Erman G\u00f6ren, Homeros\u00e7u kahraman\u0131n bir \u201cben\u201d (self) olup olamayaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131, bireysel irade ve etik kararlar\u0131n varl\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131, bedenin alt birimleri ve duygu merkezleri ba\u011flam\u0131nda analiz eder. Bruno Snell\u2019in \u201cGeist\u2019in Ke\u015ffi\u201d yakla\u015f\u0131m\u0131 ile Christopher Gill\u2019in \u201cnesnel kat\u0131l\u0131mc\u0131 insan\u201d modeli kar\u015f\u0131la\u015ft\u0131r\u0131larak modern \u00f6zne teorileriyle Ilias\u2019taki insan anlay\u0131\u015f\u0131 aras\u0131ndaki fark ortaya konur.<\/p>\n

Ana Temalar<\/strong><\/p>\n

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  1. Ki\u015filik ve Kendilik Problemi<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

    Homeros kahramanlar\u0131 irade sahibi bireyler midir? Snell\u2019e g\u00f6re, Descartes\u00e7\u0131 anlamda bir \u201cben\u201de sahip de\u011fillerdir; kararlar\u0131 \u00e7o\u011fu zaman d\u0131\u015fsal tanr\u0131sal m\u00fcdahalelerle \u015fekillenir. Gill ise bu bireylerin i\u00e7 diyalo\u011fa dayal\u0131, kamusal rollere kat\u0131lan birer insan olduklar\u0131n\u0131 savunur.<\/p>\n

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    1. Bedenin Alt Birimleri ve Psikolojik Yap\u0131<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

      Ilias\u2019ta \u201cben\u201d yerine t\u00fcmos, prapides, kradie, menos gibi duygu ve karar merkezleri vard\u0131r. Ps\u00fckhe ise yaln\u0131zca ya\u015fama enerjisini ifade eder ve ruhsal bilin\u00e7le \u00f6zde\u015fle\u015fmez. \u0130\u00e7 diyalo\u011fun bu organlar aras\u0131 etkile\u015fimle kuruldu\u011fu vurgulan\u0131r.<\/p>\n

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      1. Snell\u2019in Hegelci Tarihsel Modeli ve Ele\u015ftirisi<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

        Snell, Homeros\u2019u \u201ctez\u201d, lirik \u015fiiri \u201cantitez\u201d, tragedya insan\u0131n\u0131 \u201csentez\u201d olarak yorumlayarak benli\u011fin tarihsel evrimini modellemi\u015ftir. Bu model Kant ve Hegel\u2019in bireysel-ahlaki \u00f6znelli\u011fine dayan\u0131r ancak \u00e7a\u011fda\u015f etik\u00e7iler bu \u00e7izgiyi sorgular.<\/p>\n

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        1. Gill\u2019in Nesnel Kat\u0131l\u0131mc\u0131 \u0130nsan Modeli<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

          Gill\u2019e g\u00f6re, Homeros\u00e7u kahraman toplumsal rollerle kurdu\u011fu ili\u015fkiler arac\u0131l\u0131\u011f\u0131yla etik bilin\u00e7 geli\u015ftirir. \u0130rade, i\u00e7sel organlar\u0131n diyalogu ve kamusal s\u00f6ylemle birlikte \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131r. Bu, modern bireycilikten farkl\u0131 kolektif bir etik model sunar.<\/p>\n

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          1. Tanr\u0131sal M\u00fcdahale ve Ahlaki Y\u00f6nelim<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

            Tanr\u0131lar yaln\u0131zca zorlay\u0131c\u0131 g\u00fc\u00e7ler de\u011fil, bilinmeyeni temsil eden etik fig\u00fcrlerdir. Homeros\u2019ta tanr\u0131sal olanla ba\u011flant\u0131, ahlaki karar s\u00fcrecinin do\u011fal bir par\u00e7as\u0131d\u0131r. Kahraman, bilinmezi tanr\u0131salla\u015ft\u0131rarak kararlar\u0131nda s\u0131n\u0131r arar.<\/p>\n

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            1. \u0130\u00e7 Diyalog, Ha\u015fyet ve Karar Mekanizmalar\u0131<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

              Kahramanlar \u00f6fke, arzu, korku gibi duygular\u0131n y\u00f6nlendirmesiyle i\u00e7 \u00e7at\u0131\u015fma ya\u015far. Bu \u00e7at\u0131\u015fma yaln\u0131zca bireysel de\u011fil, ayn\u0131 zamanda toplumsal rollerle ve tanr\u0131sal seslerle dengelenir. Ha\u015fyet, bu dengeyi sa\u011flayan etik bir gerilimi temsil eder.<\/p>\n

              Sonu\u00e7<\/strong><\/p>\n

              Bu seminer, Homeros\u00e7u kahraman\u0131 modern birey modeliyle kar\u015f\u0131la\u015ft\u0131rarak, bireycilik d\u0131\u015f\u0131nda bir insan ve ahlak anlay\u0131\u015f\u0131 \u00f6nerir. \u0130\u00e7 diyalog, toplumsal rol ve tanr\u0131sal bilinmezlik \u00fc\u00e7geninde \u015fekillenen bu model, Homeros\u2019un sundu\u011fu insan\u0131n modernlik \u00f6ncesi etik d\u00fczlemlerde nas\u0131l d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fclebilece\u011fini g\u00f6sterir. Ilias, duygunun, d\u0131\u015fsal zorunlulu\u011fun ve kolektif bilincin i\u00e7 i\u00e7e ge\u00e7ti\u011fi g\u00fc\u00e7l\u00fc bir insan tasviri sunar.<\/p>\n

               <\/p>\n

              Purpose and Content of the Seminar<\/strong><\/p>\n

              This seminar addresses the fundamental question \u201cWhat is a human being?\u201d through a close reading of the Ilias. Erman G\u00f6ren explores Homeric concepts of personhood, agency, and consciousness from philosophical, literary, and philological perspectives. He examines whether Homeric heroes possess a sense of self or will, analyzing inner speech and decision-making in relation to bodily and emotional centers. The ideas of Bruno Snell and Christopher Gill are contrasted to highlight how the Ilias differs from modern theories of subjectivity.<\/p>\n

              Main Themes<\/strong><\/p>\n

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              1. The Problem of Personhood and Selfhood<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

                Do Homeric heroes possess individual will? According to Snell, they lack a Cartesian self; their actions are guided by divine interventions rather than autonomous reasoning. Gill, however, sees them as morally conscious agents shaped by public roles and inner dialogue.<\/p>\n

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                1. Subdivisions of the Body and the Structure of the Psyche<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

                  In the Ilias, decision-making is not centralized in a unified ego but distributed across terms like thymos, phrenes, kradie, and menos, which function as emotional-intellectual centers. The psyche is not the soul as consciousness but a vital force linked to life and death.<\/p>\n

                    \n
                  1. Snell\u2019s Hegelian Historical Model and Its Critique<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

                    Snell interprets Homer as a \u201cthesis\u201d in the dialectical evolution of selfhood, followed by lyric poetry as \u201cantithesis\u201d and tragedy as \u201csynthesis.\u201d His model depends on Kantian and Hegelian notions of moral individualism but has been questioned by contemporary ethicists.<\/p>\n

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                    1. Gill\u2019s Model of the Objective-Participatory Person<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

                      Gill proposes that Homeric characters develop ethical awareness through social participation and role fulfillment. Agency is expressed through internal organ-dialogue and external communal discourse, offering a collective rather than individualistic moral structure.<\/p>\n

                        \n
                      1. Divine Intervention and Moral Orientation<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

                        Gods are not mere external forces but ethical figures that represent the unknown. Divine presence in Homer is not an obstacle to morality but part of the decision-making process, symbolizing the limits and mystery of human action.<\/p>\n

                          \n
                        1. Inner Dialogue, Awe, and Decision-Making<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

                          Heroes experience internal conflict\u2014rage, fear, desire\u2014manifested as a tension between bodily impulses and social expectations. Inner dialogue is regulated by awe (aidos), which serves as a moral restraint and a source of ethical depth.<\/p>\n

                          Conclusion<\/strong><\/p>\n

                          This seminar contrasts the Homeric hero with the modern individual, offering an alternative model of human being and morality. Rooted in inner conflict, social role, and divine uncertainty, Homeric personhood challenges modern individualism and reintroduces a pre-modern ethical framework. The Ilias reveals a vision of humanity shaped by emotion, necessity, and collective awareness.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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