{"id":5742,"date":"2025-05-18T08:46:55","date_gmt":"2025-05-18T05:46:55","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/klasikdusunceokulu.com\/?page_id=5742"},"modified":"2025-05-18T08:46:55","modified_gmt":"2025-05-18T05:46:55","slug":"erman-goren-platonkratylos-2-seminer-ozeti","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/klasikdusunceokulu.com\/index.php\/erman-goren-platonkratylos-2-seminer-ozeti\/","title":{"rendered":"ERMAN G\u00d6REN: PLATON,KRATYLOS 2. SEM\u0130NER \u00d6ZET\u0130"},"content":{"rendered":"

ERMAN G\u00d6REN: PLATON,KRATYLOS 2. SEM\u0130NER \u00d6ZET\u0130<\/strong><\/p>\n

Seminerin Amac\u0131 ve \u0130\u00e7eri\u011fi<\/strong><\/p>\n

Bu seminer, Kratylos diyalogunda Sokrates\u2019in Kratylos ve Hermogenes ile yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131 tart\u0131\u015fman\u0131n ikinci evresine odaklan\u0131r. Bu b\u00f6l\u00fcmde isimlerin do\u011fru olup olamayaca\u011f\u0131, do\u011fru ismin neye g\u00f6re belirlenece\u011fi ve dilin hakikati yans\u0131t\u0131p yans\u0131tamayaca\u011f\u0131 sorular\u0131 \u00e7er\u00e7evesinde felsef\u00ee bir \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcmleme yap\u0131l\u0131r. Erman G\u00f6ren, Platon\u2019un bu metin arac\u0131l\u0131\u011f\u0131yla dilin do\u011fal m\u0131 yoksa uzla\u015f\u0131ya dayal\u0131 m\u0131 oldu\u011funa ili\u015fkin tart\u0131\u015fmay\u0131 nas\u0131l bir bilgi sorunu olarak konumland\u0131rd\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 vurgular.<\/p>\n

Ana Temalar<\/strong><\/p>\n

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  1. \u0130smin Do\u011frulu\u011fu Sorunu<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

    Sokrates, bir ismin do\u011fru olup olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131n nesneyle uygunluk derecesine ba\u011fl\u0131 oldu\u011funu \u00f6ne s\u00fcrer. \u0130sim, nesneyi tan\u0131mlama ve \u00e7a\u011f\u0131rma i\u015flevini do\u011fru bi\u00e7imde yerine getiriyorsa do\u011frudur. Bu, dilin i\u015flevsel de\u011fil ontolojik bir y\u00f6n\u00fc oldu\u011funa i\u015faret eder.<\/p>\n

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    1. \u0130simlerin Ustalar Taraf\u0131ndan Koyulmas\u0131<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

      Seminerde Sokrates\u2019in \u201cisim koyucu\u201d (onoma thet\u0113s) kavram\u0131 \u00fczerinden geli\u015ftirdi\u011fi arg\u00fcman ele al\u0131n\u0131r. Her sanat\u0131n bir ustas\u0131 oldu\u011fu gibi, dilin de bir ustas\u0131 vard\u0131r ve do\u011fru isimler bu uzmanl\u0131kla belirlenir. \u0130sim koyucu, do\u011faya uygun ve \u00f6\u011fretici isimler koymal\u0131d\u0131r.<\/p>\n

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      1. Dil ile Bilgi Aras\u0131ndaki Ba\u011f<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

        \u0130simlerin do\u011frulu\u011fu, onlar\u0131n nesnelere dair do\u011fru bilgi sunma kabiliyetine ba\u011fl\u0131d\u0131r. E\u011fer isimler, nesnelerin do\u011fas\u0131na uygun de\u011filse yan\u0131lt\u0131c\u0131 olabilir. Bu durumda dil, bilgiye ula\u015fman\u0131n bir arac\u0131 olmaktan \u00e7\u0131kar. Bu, dilin bilgi ile ili\u015fkisini merkezile\u015ftiren bir yakla\u015f\u0131m\u0131 g\u00f6sterir.<\/p>\n

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        1. Hermogenes\u2019in G\u00f6r\u00fc\u015f\u00fcne Ele\u015ftiri<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

          Sokrates, Hermogenes\u2019in dilin tamamen uzla\u015f\u0131ya dayand\u0131\u011f\u0131 iddias\u0131n\u0131 zay\u0131f bulur. Uzla\u015f\u0131, keyf\u00eelik do\u011furur ve bu da bilgiye ula\u015fmay\u0131 engeller. Bu ele\u015ftiri, sofist s\u00f6ylemin dil anlay\u0131\u015f\u0131na kar\u015f\u0131 Platon\u2019un felsef\u00ee konumunu da a\u00e7\u0131\u011fa \u00e7\u0131kar\u0131r.<\/p>\n

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          1. Dilsel G\u00f6relilik ve Hakikatin Sabitli\u011fi<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

            Dil de\u011fi\u015fken ve toplumlara g\u00f6re farkl\u0131l\u0131k g\u00f6sterse de hakikat sabittir. Bu nedenle, dilin hakikate ula\u015fmada yeterli ve g\u00fcvenilir olmas\u0131 i\u00e7in do\u011fal temellere sahip olmas\u0131 gerekir. \u0130sim\u2013nesne ili\u015fkisinde bu sabitli\u011fin aranmas\u0131, Platon\u2019un epistemolojik tutumudur.<\/p>\n

            Sonu\u00e7<\/strong><\/p>\n

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            1. seminer, Kratylos diyalogunun isim-hakikat ili\u015fkisini bilgi sorunu olarak ele alan y\u00f6n\u00fcn\u00fc a\u00e7\u0131\u011fa \u00e7\u0131kar\u0131r. Platon, dilin yaln\u0131zca bir ileti\u015fim arac\u0131 de\u011fil, ayn\u0131 zamanda do\u011fru bilgiye ula\u015fmada merkez\u00ee bir yap\u0131 oldu\u011funu savunur.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

               <\/p>\n

              Seminar Aim and Content<\/strong><\/p>\n

              This seminar focuses on the second stage of the discussion between Socrates, Cratylus, and Hermogenes in Plato\u2019s Cratylus. The dialogue now turns to the question of whether names can be \u201ccorrect,\u201d on what basis their correctness is determined, and whether language can truly reflect reality. Erman G\u00f6ren emphasizes how Plato frames this linguistic debate as fundamentally an epistemological problem.<\/p>\n

              Main Themes<\/strong><\/p>\n

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              1. The Question of Correctness in Naming<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

                Socrates argues that the correctness of a name depends on its adequacy to the object it signifies. A name is \u201ccorrect\u201d if it properly fulfills its function of identifying and designating an object. This implies that language is not merely functional but also has an ontological dimension.<\/p>\n

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                1. The Role of the Name-Giver<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

                  The seminar analyzes Socrates\u2019 notion of the \u201cname-giver\u201d (onoma thet\u0113s), likened to a craftsman who assigns names according to their nature. Just as every art has its expert, language too has its master who assigns names that are instructive and in harmony with reality.<\/p>\n

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                  1. The Link Between Language and Knowledge<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

                    Names are considered correct if they convey true knowledge of the objects they signify. If names are mismatched to the essence of things, they become misleading. Thus, the reliability of language becomes central to the pursuit of knowledge.<\/p>\n

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                    1. Critique of Hermogenes\u2019 Conventionalism<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

                      Socrates challenges Hermogenes\u2019 view that naming is purely conventional. If names were arbitrary, language would lose its cognitive value and hinder access to truth. This critique highlights Plato\u2019s opposition to sophistic theories of language.<\/p>\n

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                      1. Linguistic Relativity and Fixed Truth<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

                        While language may vary across cultures, truth remains constant. For language to reliably guide us to truth, it must rest on natural principles. In the name-object relationship, Plato seeks an underlying stability that reflects his broader epistemological commitments.<\/p>\n

                        Conclusion<\/strong><\/p>\n

                        Seminar 2 uncovers how Plato treats the relation between naming and truth as a problem of knowledge. In Cratylus, language is not merely a tool for communication but a central structure through which true understanding of reality can be achieved.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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