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EKREM DEM\u0130RL\u0130, \u0130SLAM ARA\u015eTIRMALARINA G\u0130R\u0130\u015e 3. SEM\u0130NER \u00d6ZET\u0130<\/strong><\/p>\n

Seminerin Amac\u0131<\/strong><\/p>\n

Bu dersin amac\u0131, Renan\u2019\u0131n \u0130slam toplumlar\u0131 hakk\u0131ndaki ele\u015ftirilerini derinlemesine analiz etmek, M\u00fcsl\u00fcman d\u00fcnyan\u0131n modern d\u00f6nemde kar\u015f\u0131la\u015ft\u0131\u011f\u0131 zihinsel ve tarihsel problemleri tespit etmek ve \u201c\u0130slam\u2019\u0131n ba\u015far\u0131\u2013ba\u015far\u0131s\u0131zl\u0131k ili\u015fkisi\u201d konusunun sa\u011fl\u0131kl\u0131 bir zeminde tart\u0131\u015f\u0131labilmesini sa\u011flamakt\u0131r. Hoca bu derste hem tarih yaz\u0131c\u0131l\u0131\u011f\u0131ndaki eksikliklere hem de M\u00fcsl\u00fcmanlar\u0131n kendi ge\u00e7mi\u015f alg\u0131lar\u0131n\u0131 \u015fekillendiren yanl\u0131\u015f kabullere dikkat \u00e7eker.<\/p>\n

Ana Temalar<\/strong><\/p>\n

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  1. Renan\u2019\u0131n Temel \u0130ddias\u0131n\u0131n Bug\u00fcne Dek Tart\u0131\u015fmal\u0131 Kalmas\u0131<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

    Renan\u2019\u0131n \u201cM\u00fcsl\u00fcman toplumlar neden ba\u015far\u0131s\u0131z oldu?\u201d sorusuna verdi\u011fi cevap bug\u00fcn h\u00e2l\u00e2 tart\u0131\u015fmal\u0131 kabul edilir. M\u00fcsl\u00fcmanlar\u0131n bu iddiay\u0131 tamamen reddetmesini imk\u00e2ns\u0131z k\u0131lan, tarihsel ger\u00e7ekli\u011fin yeterince bilinmemesi ve bilimsel altyap\u0131n\u0131n eksikli\u011fidir. Renan\u2019\u0131n teorisi bir\u00e7ok y\u00f6nden hatal\u0131 olsa da tamamen ge\u00e7ersiz say\u0131lamamaktad\u0131r.<\/p>\n

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    1. M\u00fcsl\u00fcman D\u00fcnyan\u0131n Tarihini Bilme Sorunu<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

      M\u00fcsl\u00fcman toplumlar\u0131n kendi tarihlerini bilimsel bi\u00e7imde ele alma konusunda zay\u0131f oldu\u011fu belirtilir. Siyasi-askeri ba\u015far\u0131lar iyi bilinir; fakat bilim, d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnce, k\u00fclt\u00fcr ve di\u011fer \u0130slam co\u011frafyalar\u0131n\u0131n durumu pek bilinmez. Osmanl\u0131 merkezli bak\u0131\u015f, Hindistan, Afrika, \u0130ran, Orta Asya ve Balkanlar gibi b\u00f6lgelerin tarihini g\u00f6rmez hale getirir.<\/p>\n

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      1. Osmanl\u0131\u2019n\u0131n A\u011f\u0131rl\u0131\u011f\u0131 ve Di\u011fer \u0130slam Co\u011frafyalar\u0131n\u0131n Silinmesi<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

        Osmanl\u0131\u2019n\u0131n b\u00fcy\u00fck bir g\u00fc\u00e7 olmas\u0131 sebebiyle M\u00fcsl\u00fcmanlar\u0131n dikkatinin tamamen Osmanl\u0131\u2019ya kayd\u0131\u011f\u0131, di\u011fer \u0130slam b\u00f6lgelerindeki geli\u015fmelerin takip edilmedi\u011fi vurgulan\u0131r. Bu nedenle \u0130slam d\u00fcnyas\u0131n\u0131n b\u00fct\u00fcnsel resmi kaybolur.<\/p>\n

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        1. Ma\u011flubiyet As\u0131rlar\u0131 ve \u00c7\u00f6k\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn Ba\u015flang\u0131c\u0131<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

          Hoca, 1710\u2019u ma\u011flubiyet as\u0131rlar\u0131n\u0131n ba\u015flang\u0131c\u0131 olarak g\u00f6r\u00fcr. Lale Devri ile Bat\u0131\u2019dan terc\u00fcmeler, askeri uzmanlar ve teknik bilgiler gelmeye ba\u015flar. Ancak \u00fc\u00e7 y\u00fczy\u0131ll\u0131k s\u00fcre\u00e7te M\u00fcsl\u00fcman toplum teknolojide, bilimde ve asker\u00ee alanda geri kalm\u0131\u015fl\u0131\u011f\u0131n fark\u0131na varm\u0131\u015f ama bunu a\u015facak yap\u0131sal d\u00f6n\u00fc\u015f\u00fcm\u00fc ger\u00e7ekle\u015ftirememi\u015ftir.<\/p>\n

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          1. M\u00fcsl\u00fcman Ayd\u0131nlarda Meydana Gelen \u00c7\u00f6k\u00fc\u015f ve Moralsizlik<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n
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            1. y\u00fczy\u0131lda Osmanl\u0131 s\u00fcrekli toprak kaybederken di\u011fer tarafta M\u00fcsl\u00fcman d\u00fcnyadan hi\u00e7bir destek gelmemi\u015ftir. Avrupa \u00e7ok merkezli ve g\u00fc\u00e7l\u00fc devlet yap\u0131lar\u0131na sahipken \u0130slam d\u00fcnyas\u0131 tek merkezli ve da\u011f\u0131n\u0131k bir yap\u0131dad\u0131r. Bu durum M\u00fcsl\u00fcman ayd\u0131nlarda derin bir \u00f6zg\u00fcven kayb\u0131 olu\u015fturur.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n
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              1. \u201cM\u00fcsl\u00fcmanlar\u0131n Durumu Neden B\u00f6yle?\u201d Sorusu ve Modern Kriz<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

                Her d\u00f6nemde M\u00fcsl\u00fcmanlar\u0131n temel sorusu haline gelen \u201cBu h\u00e2l neden b\u00f6yle oldu?\u201d sorusunun modern zihnin merkezine oturdu\u011fu belirtilir. Soru hem akademik hem ahlaki hem de psikolojik bir meseledir. Renan\u2019\u0131n yaz\u0131s\u0131 da bu sorunun bir par\u00e7as\u0131d\u0131r.<\/p>\n

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                1. Ge\u00e7mi\u015f Ba\u015far\u0131lar\u0131n Etkisi ve Yanl\u0131\u015f Beklenti<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

                  M\u00fcsl\u00fcmanlar ge\u00e7mi\u015fte ya\u015fanan b\u00fcy\u00fck ba\u015far\u0131lar\u0131 (bilim, siyaset, k\u00fclt\u00fcr, sanat) referans alarak gelecekte bunun tekrar m\u00fcmk\u00fcn oldu\u011funu d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnmektedir. Ancak hoca, bu ba\u015far\u0131lar\u0131n dinle birebir ili\u015fkisini abartan yakla\u015f\u0131mlar\u0131n ger\u00e7ekli\u011fi \u00e7arp\u0131tt\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 s\u00f6yler.<\/p>\n

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                  1. \u0130slam\u2019\u0131n Ba\u015far\u0131 ve Ba\u015far\u0131s\u0131zl\u0131ktaki Rol\u00fcn\u00fcn Abart\u0131lmas\u0131<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

                    Burada en kritik nokta olarak hoca \u015funu vurgular: \u0130slam\u2019\u0131n ba\u015far\u0131 d\u00f6nemlerindeki etkisi de, ba\u015far\u0131s\u0131zl\u0131k d\u00f6nemlerindeki etkisi de abart\u0131lm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r. Din ne ba\u015far\u0131n\u0131n tek sebebidir ne de \u00e7\u00f6k\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn nedeni olarak tek ba\u015f\u0131na a\u00e7\u0131klanabilir. Bu konuda ciddi bilimsel \u00e7al\u0131\u015fma eksikli\u011fi vard\u0131r.<\/p>\n

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                    1. Ge\u00e7mi\u015fin Bilinmemesi ve Bilimsel Ara\u015ft\u0131rma Eksikli\u011fi<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

                      M\u00fcsl\u00fcmanlar\u0131n ge\u00e7mi\u015f bilimsel faaliyetleri, d\u00fcnya ile ili\u015fkileri, \u00fcrettikleri fikirler ve katk\u0131lar yeterince incelenmemi\u015ftir. Ayn\u0131 zamanda bug\u00fcn\u00fcn M\u00fcsl\u00fcman toplumlar\u0131n\u0131n durumunu anlamak i\u00e7in de analitik ara\u015ft\u0131rmalar yetersizdir. Bu nedenle sa\u011fl\u0131kl\u0131 bir de\u011ferlendirme yap\u0131lamaz.<\/p>\n

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                      1. Renan\u2019\u0131n Tarihsel Tespiti: \u0130slam\u2019\u0131n \u0130lk Y\u00fczy\u0131l\u0131nda Bilim Olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131 Ger\u00e7e\u011fi<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

                        Renan\u2019\u0131n \u201c\u0130slam\u2019\u0131n ilk asr\u0131nda bilim yoktu\u201d tespiti kabul edilir. \u0130slam\u2019\u0131n ilk y\u00fczy\u0131llar\u0131nda ne felsefe ne matematik ne t\u0131p ne ba\u015fka bir bilim geli\u015fmi\u015ftir. Bu geli\u015fmeler ancak daha ge\u00e7 d\u00f6nemlerde ortaya \u00e7\u0131km\u0131\u015ft\u0131r. Din ilimleri i\u00e7inde bile hadis\u2013rey kavgas\u0131 gibi ciddi gerilimler ya\u015fanm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r.<\/p>\n

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                        1. Hadis\u2013Rey Tart\u0131\u015fmas\u0131 ve Nazar\/Ak\u0131l Ele\u015ftirisi<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

                          \u0130lk iki as\u0131rda kelam\u00ee ak\u0131l bile hen\u00fcz olu\u015fmam\u0131\u015ft\u0131r. Hadis ekol\u00fc rey ekol\u00fcn\u00fc bidat\u00e7ilikle su\u00e7lam\u0131\u015f, rey ekol\u00fc ise hadis\u00e7ileri anlamamakla itham etmi\u015ftir. Bu d\u00f6nem bile M\u00fcsl\u00fcmanlar aras\u0131nda fikir \u00e7e\u015fitlili\u011finin hen\u00fcz olu\u015fmad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 ve bilginin \u00e7ok s\u0131n\u0131rl\u0131 oldu\u011funu g\u00f6sterir.<\/p>\n

                          Sonu\u00e7<\/strong><\/p>\n

                          Bu ders, \u0130slam toplumlar\u0131n\u0131n modern d\u00f6nemdeki ba\u015far\u0131s\u0131zl\u0131klar\u0131n\u0131 salt dine ba\u011flaman\u0131n hatal\u0131 oldu\u011funu, ayn\u0131 \u015fekilde ge\u00e7mi\u015f ba\u015far\u0131lar\u0131 tamamen dine mal etmenin de sa\u011fl\u0131kl\u0131 olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 vurgular. Tarihsel s\u00fcre\u00e7 iyi bilinmedi\u011fi i\u00e7in ne ba\u015far\u0131 do\u011fru anla\u015f\u0131labilmekte ne gerileme do\u011fru analiz edilebilmektedir. Hoca, Renan\u2019\u0131n iddialar\u0131n\u0131n abart\u0131l\u0131 olsa da tart\u0131\u015f\u0131lmaya de\u011fer oldu\u011funu ve M\u00fcsl\u00fcman d\u00fcnyan\u0131n kendisini anlamak i\u00e7in kapsaml\u0131 bilimsel ara\u015ft\u0131rmalara ihtiyac\u0131 bulundu\u011funu belirtir.<\/p>\n

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                          Purpose of the Seminar<\/strong><\/p>\n

                          The purpose of this session is to examine Renan\u2019s criticisms of Islam and Muslim societies, diagnose the historical and intellectual weaknesses that shaped the modern Muslim world, and question the widely repeated assumption that Islam was the primary cause of past success or present decline. The lecture emphasizes the need for scientific historical research and warns against simplistic explanations.<\/p>\n

                          Main Themes<\/strong><\/p>\n

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                          1. The Ongoing Relevance of Renan\u2019s Central Claim<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

                            Renan\u2019s question\u2014\u201cWhy are Muslim societies in this condition?\u201d\u2014remains relevant because the historical and intellectual data required to refute it fully are lacking. Muslims cannot entirely dismiss the argument without developing strong scientific analysis.<\/p>\n

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                            1. The Problem of Historical Knowledge in the Muslim World<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

                              Muslim societies lack a comprehensive scientific historiography. Political successes are known, but intellectual, scientific, cultural, and regional histories remain largely unexplored, leading to a fragmented understanding.<\/p>\n

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                              1. The Overshadowing Effect of the Ottoman Empire<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

                                The Ottoman focus erased the histories of India, Africa, Iran, Central Asia, and the Balkans. This produced a distorted view of the Muslim world\u2019s diversity and development.<\/p>\n

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                                1. The Beginning of the Centuries of Defeat<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

                                  According to the lecturer, the \u201ccenturies of defeat\u201d began around 1710. Despite recognizing decline, Muslim societies failed to produce structural reforms comparable to Europe\u2019s transformation.<\/p>\n

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                                  1. Collapse of Intelligentsia and Psychological Breakdown<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

                                    While Europe had many powerful states, the Muslim world was represented almost solely by the Ottomans. This contributed to a severe psychological collapse among Muslim intellectuals.<\/p>\n

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                                    1. The Central Modern Question: Why Are Muslims in This Condition?<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

                                      This question dominates modern Muslim intellectual life. Renan\u2019s text is part of this discourse and forces Muslims to rethink self-perception.<\/p>\n

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                                      1. Misleading Reliance on Past Success<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

                                        Muslims often believe that past glories can be repeated easily. However, the connection between religion and historical success is frequently exaggerated and poorly analyzed.<\/p>\n

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                                        1. Exaggeration of Islam\u2019s Role in Both Success and Decline<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

                                          The lecturer argues that Islam\u2019s role during both flourishing and decline is overstated. Religion alone cannot explain historical patterns, positively or negatively.<\/p>\n

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                                          1. Lack of Scientific Research on Both Past and Present<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

                                            There is insufficient investigation into what Muslims contributed historically and what their current intellectual status is. This prevents accurate self-assessment.<\/p>\n

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                                            1. Renan\u2019s Historical Observation: Absence of Science in Early Islam<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

                                              Renan\u2019s remark that early Islam produced no science is factually correct. Scientific and philosophical developments emerged only in later centuries.<\/p>\n

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                                              1. Hadith\u2013Reason Conflict and the Absence of Early Rational Theology<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

                                                The early conflict between hadith traditionalists and the people of reason demonstrates that even internal religious sciences lacked stability and intellectual maturity in the first centuries.<\/p>\n

                                                Conclusion<\/strong><\/p>\n

                                                This lesson highlights that Muslims cannot explain their condition by relying solely on religion as causal factor. Both historical success and modern decline require a broader, more scientific examination. Renan\u2019s critique, though exaggerated, forces the Muslim world to confront its incomplete historical understanding and intellectual stagnation.<\/p>\n

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